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Tuesday, July 28, 2020
What was the "U" Shaped Object Seen in Nebraska in 1955?
Sunday, July 26, 2020
A Closer Look at a Classic Tale: The Mantell Flight
JULY 7, 1948
A Kentucky - Control tower and possible ground
crew observed something at the south end of the Godman AFB, near Marysville,
Kentucky. Object described as: bright white or silver bright, shape was fluid
but generally round. Several of the included descriptions support the balloon
idea by the descriptions: like a
tear-drop; later the object seemed fluid” but no trail. (For more on this topic see previous entry "1948:Some Questions")
Witness 33B – described it: “the color changed from white to blue to red to yellow and a black dot in the center at all times.” They also indicated it was like an “Ice Cream Cone topped with red”. A classic balloon description from about late 1947 when balloons adopted a more standardize color system, possibly to aid investigators in tracking them. Many of the early balloon tests did not even have the equipment to adequately track them and depended on news stories to find their missing balloons!
Witness 33A – added it was “like parachute round.”
It was faster than F-51, moving S to W (this would seem to imply a more westerly course creating an arc SW out of Columbus to curve down through Kentucky to Tennessee before it apparently was lost forever. It was, observed for 1 ½ hrs. beginning 1420 hrs. CST. It was labeled incident 330, 33B, 33A, 33. 33g in Project Blue Book.
1:10 p.m. – Madisonville, Kentucky. Object, moving about 10 mph, “cone shaped”.
1:15 p.m. – Maysville, Kentucky. A sighting. Strange object reported moving west. Details unknown. [Dr. Donald H. Menzel. The World of Flying Saucers. 1963. Pg. 37]
1:35 p.m. – Owensboro and Irvington, Kentucky. Circular object sighted, 250 to 300 feet in diameter, moving west. [Dr. Donald H. Menzel. The World of the Flying Saucer. 1963, pg. 37; he also identifies the period the balloon would have risen to 30,000 and entered a westward moving jet street up to 60,000 feet on a line with these two sightings, pg. 36]]
1:45 p.m. (shortly before) – Godman AFB, Kentucky. Sighted a circular or parachute-shaped object in view for about two hours, slowly moving south. [Dr. Donald H. Menzel. The World of the Flying Saucer. 1963, pg. 37]
2:30 p.m. – Godman AFB area. A group of four P-51’s (Mantell, Orner, Blackwell, Carter) are nearing and a request is made for them to check out the object.
2:45 p.m. – Godman AFB area. Capt. Thomas Mantell radios to tower that he was at about 15,000 ft. and the object was ahead and above him, moving at half his speed (approx.. 180 mph). Witness 33 (Mantell), noted it was heading South. one of the other pilots, Quinton Blackwell, noted Mantell said it was of “tremendous size” and “Seemed metallic”. Mantell estimated size at about 250-300 feet, circular, in the area of Maysville, Kentucky. About 1445 (or 1445 or 2:45) the Flight Leader Mantell NG 269 noted the object was ahead and climbing toward 33,000 ft.
t is reported in the official file that he said “I’m going to 20,000” although there are some who point out that when the primary witness to the event cannot speak for himself all that is left is essentially hearsay. It is, however, all that modern researchers have to go on.
3:15 p.m. –Godman AFB area - Mantell is reported to have also said: “I’m going to try to close in for a better look.” These are believed to be his last words. Other planes search 100 miles south and could not find the object.
Exact time unknown. State Police reported an object 100 feet from top to the bottom and 43 feet across and about 4 miles up traveling SW at about 10 mph (balloons customarily travel at a slow and steady pace unless the balloon lasts long enough to lift it into a jet stream or other fast moving upper air currents).
3:18 p.m. – Mantell’s plane crashes Simson County, south of Franklin, Kentucky. Cause of death attributed to hypoxia (loss of oxygen) and leading to the crash.
3:50 – Godman Ground Crew watched the object disappear from view. Menzel says minutes later observers further south in Kentucky and Tennessee were reporting an unknown in the sky [Dr. Donald H. Menzel. The World of the Flying Saucer. 1963, pg. 37
4:00 p.m. – Madisonville, Kentucky. Strange object through binoculars identified as balloon. According to Menzel, this sighting would have been when the balloon had climbed to 60,000 feet and entered a swift moving jet stream headed - south. [Dr. Donald H. Mensel. The World of the Flying Saucer. 1963, pg. 36-38].
4:30 – 4:40 (1630-16450 hrs.) or 4:45 p.m. (time varies in accounts) – Nashville, Tennessee. An astronomer saw an object with a basket (an assumed equipment package of the balloon) SSE of Nashville. It first moved SSE then turned W at about 10 mph, at an estimated 25,000 ft.
Post Crash – Godman AFB reported a large light in the sky approximate location of earlier light. The Lockbourne Tower and Clinton County Tower advised a great ball of light was moving SW across the sky. The St. Louis tower later advised seeing a great ball f light passing overhead. They advised Air Defense via Olmsted alerted to Coffeeville, KS., Ft. Smith and Kansas City, Missouri of an object moving WSW at 250 mph.
Air Defense Command (ADC) requested the file on the Godman incident be sent to them at Michel Field, Hampstead, NY “ASAP.” Attached to that was a mention of other events: “At St. Louis ATC advised of an article from Edwardsville, Illinois at 07200 an object of aluminum appearance without any wings or control surfaces moving SW.” It remained visible for 30 minutes. “The article went on to describe the amazement and wonder of the editor -.” Of interest is that as late 1964 the file was being used. IN July 1964 a letter came to the office of Project Blue Book about a recent crash of a P-51 in Oregon where a pilot over 20,000 ft. lost oxygen and crashed.
5:00 p.m. – Lockbourne AFB, Columbus, Ohio. Round, glowing amber object sighted on southwest horizon in horizontal flight; in view about 20 minutes, then disappeared below horizon. [Dr. Donald H. Menzel. The World of the Flying Saucer. 1963, pg. 37]
5:00 p.m. – Columbus, Ohio at Lockbourne AFB – a sighting of the Planet Venus. 1 page in the Blue Book files on a form issued in 1952. One source noted that at the time of the alleged sighting the planet was at a stellar magnitude of a -3.4; meaning it would have been visible, if at all, only as a speck of light through the cloud cover [Dr. Donald H. Menzel. The World of the Flying Saucer. 1963, pg. 36]
7:00 p.m. (1920 – 1950 hrs.) –Wilmington, Ohio. Incident #48. First appearance of object was “flare-like”; fire like color riding thermals (up and down); stars in the sky white or yellow or flame. Very high altitude. Moved slow due West from Clinton Co. Army Air Field. Second witness at 1930 hours in control tower saw a triangular shape rocking; it had red and green colors. Triangle was red, when it descended the broad end of triangle was up and a green light seemed to stream out. Color fluctuated: 1st white then red; witness thought it not a balloon or aircraft. There is a see also” notation about Incident # 30 n-c – Lockbourne AFB.
7:25 p.m. (1925 hrs.)- Columbus Ohio, Lockbourne AFB. Object observed for approximately 15 minutes, large, it was viewed both aerially and from the ground, it “descended”. 1 page report on a form produced starting 1952.
7:50 (1952 hrs.) – Columbus, Ohio, Case # 32, Jan. 7, 1948. 1 page file on a form produced starting 1952. A USAF Plot in the air reported one amber colored object, “like a large star or planet”, “seemed stationary.” “Considering the incident with #32, 33, 48 one is forced to conclude that object observed from Lockbourne…was the planet Venus.” One report of the incident lists the location of the object as ESS – 120 degrees or approximately opposite from those stated by the other witnesses and the planet Venus. “Obviously since the time of observation was the same, this means that one witness either was looking at a different object or had his directions mixed. Since is is assumed throughout the report that all observers were viewing the same object, the later interpretation seems probable.”
10:20 p.m. – Gorman AFB. Mentioned but details unclear.
11:30 p.m. – Cartersville, Georgia. Jan. 8, 1948. Circular object with flat top (pot shaped), course 175 degrees magnitude, observed by pilot on a flight from St. Louis to Atlanta flying at 3,000 ft. He described the object as light, sky blue in color, traveling about 400 mph and at about his own 3,000 ft. The object crossed the path of the witness and all that could be observed was an intense blue flame, in a something closely resembling an exhaust pipe. As it crossed the path of the plane, the flame sputtered and turned downward. The pilot never saw it land or hit the ground. He had served in England and associated the flame like that seen on what the RAF called “buzz bombs”. There was, however, no long trailing flame like with a meteor object instead he said it was like looking down a smoke-stack or a pipe – a concentrated intense blue flame.
Perhaps the greatest tragedy - after the loss of a brave man - was the tunnel vision of both those wishing to cover up the truth behind this incident and those wishing to uncover the "truth" to prove one particular take on the truth. The dueling agendas of nearly everyone involved meant that pilots were needless endangered by not being apprised of potential "surprises" they might encountered "up top."
Original and initial explanations for the accident was that the pilot had seen the Planet Vensus and in chasing that goal had died. Venus was an immediate response for many such sightings of this era. The Air Force started with a deflection approach: the witness is always mistaken. An early scientific advisor, with experience with top secret projects, may have been the source of this approach. J. A. Hyneck originally went with that as a reasonable thesis but later would revise that when he learned more details of the case . There was no way a daytime sighting of the planet, even through haze, could have been mistaken for a huge silvery object. The planet would have been barely a pinpoint of light.
The balloon explanation does fit some of the identified facts - best guess is a top secret Skyhook balloon being used by the U.S. Navy.
So often the manner of keeping secrets in this era was to ignore the possible dangers to military and civilian life. The secret was important; even if that secret would only be of value for a brief few years and quickly forgotten.
Nothing - safety, health, or essential freedoms - was as important as keeping that short-term, illusionary and often valueless secret.
Thursday, July 23, 2020
1950 - Kingman, Kansas
1966 - Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, Ohio
One Explanation for the 1965 "Flap"
US vs. THEM: What Would Contact Mean?
Liar,Liar, Pants on Fire!
The report stated 1 object seen, moving from the west to the east, object was the size of a grapefruit (held at arm's length), object was BLUE to GREEN in color, Object would move out at fast speed, halt, move out again. Had lights flaring from tail end. Picked up speed and flew out of sight.
The comments section said "Probable star SPICA. Sighting possessed of the characteristics of an astronomical body with distortion and apparent motion due to atmospheric conditions...observed while traveling in a car. Pont first observed 75 miles from point where object was first observed."
There, anyone reading that would say, ah, silly witness just a star and got carried away. Nothing to see here, moving right along....
The witness said: its color was cold green changing to blue and then to orange
The witness said: It passed over the road in front of the car
The witness said: It kept crossing back and forth
The witness said: He had stopped the car and had gotten out to observe the object through binoculars
The witness said: the object had a red light at the rear end
The witness said: the object was moving slowly and toward the observer
Wednesday, July 22, 2020
New Mexico Wing? August 25, 1951
Northrop Grumman's concept is based on the extremely aerodynamic
"flying wing" design. The four Rolls Royce engines are embedded in the
upper surface of the wing to achieve maximum noise shielding. The
company used its expertise in building military planes without a
stabilizing tail to propose this design for the commercial aviation
market.
This design is among those presented to NASA at the end of 2011 by
companies that conducted NASA-funded studies into aircraft that could
enter service in 2025. The image is dated circa 2011 , Northrup-Grumman. | |
Source | http://www.nasa.gov/topics/aeronautics/features/future_airplane_gallery19.html (direct link) |
Marietta, Ohio June 1968
Isaac Asimov : Quote on the importance of evidence.
― Isaac Asimov
Tuesday, July 21, 2020
WHAT DID THEY SEE IN WICHITA, KANSAS IN NOVEMBER 1960?
Sunday, July 19, 2020
OKLAHOMA BOOK SHARES ABOUT STATE UFO'S
Today, as 'Unidentified Aerial Phenomena" are becoming news worthy and the term is replacing the well worn "Flying Saucers" and "UFO's" of the past, take a trip to see what was going on over Oklahoma skies...
You might be surprised. Read SOONER SAUCERS: OKLAHOMA UFOs 1947-1969.
Friday, July 10, 2020
"What is going on?": The Hidden Events Behind the Midwest Flap
An Odd 1965 Sighting from Carswell AFB, Fort Worth, Texas
The
cool shadows of night were just settling down over Fort Worth on July 28, 1965 (0240
z or 8:40 p.m.) when a United States Air Force Reserves Major and his wife
paused in their bicycle ride around the north parameter of Carswell Air Force
Base.
It had been a clear warm day, high nineties with just enough wind (8 knots) to feel some relief from the heat. Somewhere in the distance, on base or elsewhere, the faint sounds of music came from someone’s radio. Several hundred yards to the south of where they paused there was a C-124 being loaded or unloaded and around it were grouped some Air Force guards, some airmen, and a waiting truck.
His wife called his attention to three extremely bright lights coming toward them from the south. As the Major glanced up he found himself staring at something that left him shocked. As it moved past them heading north the light was far more intense and pulsated slower, as if from a Doppler Effect. Watching it silently continue on he realized right away three very important things.
The first that the massive (about 40 foot) mantra ray shaped dark object sailing back overhead was inside the Carswell AFB controlled air space.
The second fact was that he did not recognize the object in the sky above them. He was a command pilot, a major In the AF Reserves and had top secret clearances yet he did not recognize the object. He estimated it was under 1000 feet in altitude. He also noticed that the standard position lights were not there. When the lights went out underneath, there was an odd twinkle along the leading edge, like electricity zipping across its surface.
Finally, he recognized one other thing and that was the object was sailing overhead with a total lack of sound. There was not even the whisper of air displacement as a glider would make.
His training kicked in and he noticed other things. On the underside were three extremely brilliant white lights. It had come in low at about a 20 degree horizon and was going somewhere between 50 and 60 knots. Hurrying back to the base he typed up a report, citing the potential threat to security for ground or air crew to not be able to immediately recognize all air craft in the skies.
He immediately returned to base, checked with tower control, and a Sergeant and three air men there verified they had also seen the object. He then submitted his report. Local authority teletyped his statement to Wright-Patterson and other recognized recipients per protocol.
That is about all that is in the Project Blue Book file on this case. The cover sheet with its summaries and comments is once more a source of some interesting information. The sighting was summarily concluded to be an “aircraft.” The lack of detail is significant given the questions the witness raised about security. The summary also adds the following: “Tower regarded it as aircraft. Pilots of aircraft in the area regarded it as aircraft. Call to investigating officer that it was an aircraft. Reported because RAFCON (a radar approach control system used by the FAA and the military) could not identify aircraft in area at time of sighting. Report regarded as aircraft observance. Flight could be local with no flight plan at local FAA station. Evaluated as aircraft."
On the cover someone, higher up or one of the several consultants hired to review cases, had scrawled a question that can be taken several ways: “How come a command pilot can’t recognize an aircraft?” This could be an indicting statement about the level of training of said command pilot with top secret clearance or it could be a question just what was this object that flew so steady northward through restricted and controlled air space over an air base that houses, among other things, the Strategic Air Command (SAC)?
The most striking aspect of this case is the silence. The absolutely-no-sound-being-made-whatsoever element that is out of step with recognized aerial development for the time. The “manta ray” shape was not new (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_F4D_Skyray) and was first seen in craft tested as early as 1951. The silence, however, is harder to locate prior to 1993 with rumors of the new stealth craft being developed.
Most probable is that there was a clandestine line of development at work in the 1950’s and into the space race 1960’s that pursued the idea of zero- gravity and anti-gravity (see https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/30499/the-truth-is-the-military-has-been-researching-anti-gravity-for-nearly-70-years). It is known that the FBI, CIA and companies used by them in contract work such as Northrup destroyed many files related to top secret projects. Northrup’s flying wing, Northrop YB-49, bears a strong resemblance to some witness drawings in Project Blue Book files indicating that people were sometimes seeing experimental craft.
The
records for a 1965 craft generating less than 10 decibels (audible breathing)
are difficult to verify. There may be another clue in the sparkling lights seen
along the leading edge of the craft. This is an effect reported by some
claiming they had worked on anti-gravity experimental crafts and has been
reported to have been seen on some early spy planes. The U-2 and other early spy planes can account for many of the very high and very fast sightings of strange objects but low and silent?
What craft in 1965 had a manta ray shape, was roughly 40 feet across, had three extremely brilliant (the new strobe lights?) underneath and could travel at under 1000 feet with total absence of sound? That is the question. Do you have an answer?